Do you know... What was your relationship with the other DOGE people, and what were your impressions of them? Surprisingly little, honestly, communication with the other non-VA DOGE people because they are so worried about maybe information leakage or something like that. They kind of don't... You think you're joining the group, but you're really joining a subgroup of a subgroup of the group. Elon is not as much as I was expecting a software sort of activist. But really I thought my personal agenda was to make DOGE more successful.