I’ve been covering AI a lot at The Verge, and I’m excited to start sharing some of the conversations I regularly have with leaders in the space here. The plan is for each episode to focus on a specific theme, from the rise of deepfakes to how AI is reimagining the browser. He’s the founder of Meaning, a marketing firm that works with a lot of buzzy AI startups. Now, he’s in the trenches with a lot of AI startups, helping them figure out how to present their products to the world. I’ve always found Ellis to be an original thinker, and I hope you find our conversation as interesting as I did.