In 2008, he and classmate Justin Kantor founded (Le) Poisson Rouge, a music and multimedia art venue, in the spot that was once home to the legendary New York City jazz club The Village Gate. So I'd be like, "You can hear the same dissonance in the music you know in some of this new stuff." What would you advise to someone reading this who dreams of opening their own music or art venue? And let's face it, that's where you're going to make your money. If you don't think you're in the bar business by opening a music venue, you're kidding yourself.