Wikipedia’s Jimmy Wales has been called the last decent tech baron. On this week’s episode of The Big Interview, Wales and I discussed what it means to build something used by billions of people that’s not optimized for growth at all costs. We also talked about what threatens Wikipedia now, from AI to conspiracy-pilled billionaires, and why he’ll never edit an entry about Donald Trump. KATIE DRUMMOND: Jimmy Wales, welcome to The Big Interview. So if I lived in Silicon Valley, I would only have tech friends because that's who lives there.